August 2022 |
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INTERVIEW
Q&A by Justin Lavoie, VP Channel Development at Schneider Electric https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-lavoie-84893910/
and Tony Nolan, President of Triton Concepts https://www.linkedin.com/in/tony-nolan-0476345a/
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1. As a Systems Integrator, what
is your perspective on Facilities Management 2.0 (FM 2.0) and the impact it
could have on our industry?
Tony: The first thing to note is that there is a
lot of talk in the industry about FM 2.0, but minimal action. Everyone is
looking to find a way to adopt the new model but everyone is having difficulty
implementing it. We have met with countless end users that like the concept but
are struggling with deployment.
At the
Systems Integrator level, it’s extremely exciting to see ideas like FM2.0
receive mainstream industry acceptance. The end goal of the FM 2.0 approach is
to deliver better outcomes for the end user by utilizing digital strategies.
There is a great opportunity for the construction industry to catch up with
other industries that have been at the forefront of digital development. As a
Systems Integrator, Triton Concepts is well suited to working in this space,
and FM 2.0 represents an opportunity for us to expand our scope of service for
our clients.
Justin: Our perspective as a solutions provider is
focused on how to shift the industry forward from minimal action on FM 2.0, as
Tony mentioned, to full implementation. The openness of Schneider Electric’s
EcoStruxure solutions can facilitate the industry wide progression of FM 2.0
because they operate in conjunction with all the electrical systems in the
building. The impact that solutions like EcoStruxure could have on the industry
is exciting, as collaboration between all stakeholders and alignment with the
needs of facility management from the start leads to better outcomes for the
end users.
FM 2.0
is about digital strategies, but also about considering facility management
needs at the start to keep everyone aligned and working towards the same goals,
which fosters better results for both the building inhabitants and the facility
managers. For example, there are often times when a project only needs one
meter rather than two, but both meters have already been purchased — enacting
FM 2.0 means that all parties involved can review the big picture ahead of time
and save costs by eliminating duplicate materials from the budget before
they’re purchased.
2. What are some of the biggest
obstacles facing our industry when it comes to the deployment of digitized
facility infrastructures to support new FM outcomes?
Tony: The biggest obstacle preventing the deployment
of digitized facility infrastructures is the inertia that exists in the
industry. Developers, contractors, and engineers have been working with the
same delivery models for a long time. Changing the process and taking on a new
challenge can present a risk to all parties.
A
general contractor is a great example to consider. They may not have a mechanical, electrical, and plumbing (MEP)
coordinator or superintendent that is experienced in overseeing a low voltage
technology contractor or master systems integrator (MSI). Even budgeting a
technology package that doesn’t fit into conventional scoping documents can be
a challenge. So, the team will conform to the norm and break out packages
between the mechanical, electrical, and other tier contractors.
Another
example would be design engineers, who often don’t have well-developed and
defined specifications to support the FM 2.0 approach. It can be more difficult
for them to fulfill their ‘trusted expert’ role and may even harm relationships
they hold with vendors who have supported them in the past when working within
the conventional design approach.
The best
way to sum up the obstacles to the deployment of digitized facility
infrastructures is that risk frequently leads to a return to traditional design
and delivery.
Justin: Agreed - the biggest obstacle is definitely the industry’s reliance on traditional
deployment methods. The typical model of how a building project is purchased
needs to change in order to achieve digitized
facility infrastructures and support FM 2.0.
In light
of the obstacles in play, the Division 25 specification makes digitized
facility infrastructure achievable by helping facility managers find
specifications in one low voltage package for local solutions. This
specification also bridges the gap between HVAC, electrical, security, and
other systems to prevent confusion and reduce building costs. The data
integration and system interconnectivity laid out in the Division 25
specification clears the way for lower energy costs and increased efficiency,
which ultimately supports the new facility management outcomes associated with
FM 2.0. This makes it easier for the contractors and design engineers who don’t
have certain resources to adapt to the changes that come with FM 2.0 and trust
novel processes.
3. How has your partnership with
Schneider Electric driven improvements in the technology and systems you have
deployed for your clients?
Tony: It is a privilege to be a part of the
Schneider Electric EcoXpert program. We are the fastest growing Systems
Integrator on the West Coast, and Schneider Electric has been instrumental in
launching our business. They have the tools to assist in the design process and
have all the solutions available for us to help our clients adopt the FM 2.0
approach on a single platform. Our clients get peace of mind knowing that all
the systems designed by Schneider Electric are intended to be deployed and
operated together.
Over the
last 20+ years, low-voltage systems have become smarter, but the default
approach for implementation of these systems has been to ‘separate and
integrate.’ Each system was independently evaluated, selected, purchased, and
installed. The Systems Integrator ‘makes it work’ and the resulting product
delivered to the end user offers low level functionality between systems. The
essence of FM2.0 is to use what we call an integral approach, where the systems
are selected and designed for their interoperability. Schneider Electric has
driven this to the deepest levels of their EcoStruxure platform.
Justin: We love to hear how our EcoStruxure solutions
help our EcoXperts, like Triton Concepts, launch their
businesses and seamlessly integrate systems. Our EcoXperts see firsthand just
how vital digital transformation is for the industry. They play a significant
role in enabling this transformation by delivering smart, integrated solutions
to their customers.
Given the ever-changing nature of our
world, it’s important to adapt to meet the evolving needs of our customers,
especially as the workplace becomes more digital than ever. By working with our
EcoXperts we can support the unforeseen demands of the future with
best-in-class technologies and solutions. We commend our EcoXperts for their
passion and commitment to our program, which is obvious in the investments and
trainings they put into it.
4. Where have you seen success and
what tips would you have for building owners / operators?
Tony: It may sound simple, but the key to a
successful deployment is to start with a detailed understanding of the end
user’s desired outcomes. By engaging the Systems Integrator early (before MEP
design progresses past schematic design) they become integral in the design and
help ensure that the end user requirements are met throughout the entire design
phase. There are important questions to ask, like “How do you want the building
to look and feel for the occupants,” “What portions of occupant interactions with
the building should be manual, simplified, or automatic,” and “How can the
building anticipate occupant needs?”
Letting
use cases from the end user drive system selection is the most important part
of achieving the end goal. Once the project has progressed to the construction
stage, the owner, engineer, and systems integrator should write sequences of
operation for the integrations that detail how something that occurs in one
system will drive changes in outcome across other systems.
Justin: The key tips for success for building owners
are to pick the team early and to get everyone involved up front — including
the Systems Integrator, as Tony said. It is important that all the teams
executing the plan are a part of the design because this ensures that the end
user gets what they’re seeking. The questions that Tony lists are in line with
this idea because they keep the end user at top of
mind.
Following
these tips grants visibility to everyone involved, removes inconsistencies and overlaps in design packages,
and eliminates last minute surprises. It’s also an affordable way to achieve
design outcomes.
5. What has been the best delivery
method to achieve these kinds of successful implementations?
Tony: At this point in
time, the delivery method is still new to most of the industry, but the
best approach is to hire a design-build Master Systems Integrator (MSI). The
MSI should be identified before the pen is put to
the paper on any electrical circuit or mechanical ductwork. The MSI is engaged
to understand the workflow between systems that will be implemented — they can
then advise the MEP team on system requirements so
they are accurately accounted for in the design. Furthermore, if the MSI
operates as a contractor, they would have the capability to deliver a turnkey
implementation of these systems.
Every project is different, and there is no ‘one-size-fits-all’ approach
to deploying the FM 2.0 approach. One thing, however, is imperative: all
stakeholders of the project must be aligned on the delivery model and be fully
invested in driving its success.
Justin: Stakeholder alignment is undoubtedly the key
to success. Although there certainly is no one-size-fits-all delivery method
within FM 2.0, I believe that the best delivery method for successful
implementation is Integrated Project Delivery (IPD). Integrated Project
Delivery is a method that bring all systems,
practices, and people into the process at the same time to make use of the
variety of talent on-hand for the best project results.
For example, a successful project we
worked on with Penn Medicine used the IPD method. The teams were selected up front,
prior to purchasing, which was necessary because the project came with challenges
that required them to work together to solve. Their collaboration in the beginning ensured that
they met their goals in the long term, and the project was a huge success.
Schneider Electric’s EcoStruxure Building Operation software works with the IPD method, bringing interoperability and openness. With FM 2.0, the thought process has evolved from ‘Oh we need to install a thermostat’ to that of a fully connected digital system. IPD goes hand-in-hand with this mindset.
Justin Lavoie, VP Channel Development at Schneider Electric https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-lavoie-84893910/
Tony Nolan, President of Triton Concepts https://www.linkedin.com/in/tony-nolan-0476345a/
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